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Closed source, requires account, telemetry... All reasons I left Windows for good.

Hi Christian, I had tried the warp terminal on linux. Even though it is actually good and fun, I switched back to Kitty. The showstopper for me was when the terminal broke during a system update. I think it was because warp was part of the update.

They are kinda bloated for me and I hate it.

Wave all the day all days!

Electron Cancer.

I just use konsole

If only Wave would not use Electron.. and would support themes. Not a winner for me, rn.

Emacs does everything, including AI stuff

Wezterm

Termius

Kitty 🌟

Why do both omit such a large user base in Windows?

Many peopple saying alacritty. Doesn't have scrolling. That is a no thank you for me.

What about the criticism of the Mac OS WINDOWING SYSTEM, as well as other desktop management quirks?

Wave sounds like the nerdy sysadmin term ^^ I bet on it! Most important, they plan to add a plugin system... just great! Even if it is written in Golang (pretty singular for a terminal simulator). It is the only really dealbreaker for me if I need to consider one…

lmao never signing into my terminal....never....plus there is enough ai cli tools where you dont need that anyway...plus besides that closed source....naaaaaa brehhhh naaaa

So often the features listed for both I was going "why would I want that to be in the terminal?" For example, autocomplete _really_ should be handled by the program that actual runs the commands, which is the shell, and shouldn't be done at the terminal level. And even for the times that I do think it could be a useful terminal feature, I could just do the same in Emacs with vterm to get even better integration with my editing environment. All without needing an online account or have to deal with an AI in a place I really don't need one. Basically, to me a terminal should just be a way to interact with stdin and stdout, maybe looking pretty if I can make it, so I just use Alacritty as my go-to and vterm if I need something integrated with my Emacs session (or wanna leverage any snippets I come up with that can't just be shell functions or scripts).

The flashbang at 16:32 was brutal.

I have homepage for quite a while, I love it!, have many widgets, but there is one specifically I can't get it work; Subsonic. Have you come across about it or any other Audio Streaming Server on Homepage?

Really interesting battle! I recently looked into Warp and almost switched to it. But eventually I went back to iTerm2. I also like WezTerm, which can be almost as powerful as iTerm2 and has the major benefit of being cross-platform (like Wave and finally also Warp). On Linux, I also like Konsole, but it's a bit too tied to KDE. I'll definitely keep an eye on Warp and Wave! Regarding features like autocomplete or tiling, I'm not sure what I'd prefer to be handled by the terminal emulator and what I want to have in my shell config. Right now, I'm using tabs and tiling from the terminal emulator, everything else is handled in my zsh config. I don't want to miss custom fonts and themes, and inline image rendering is also something I'd like to have (iTerm2, WezTerm, Konsole have it, Wave seems to have it as well (not sure if it integrates well with other programs like ranger, yazi etc.), Warp doesn't have it. As a prompt, I'm currently using Powerlevel10k. I might switch over to Oh My Posh now that development of Powerlevel10k has stopped. Starship is also nice but I prefer the former two.

tilix or foot

I just use the default one which comes with the OS

Is there any way to synchronize wave settings between my home PC and my work PC?

These are dumb, just use macos or Linux. Then you just use kitty or alacrity. Tmux or zellij for tabs and splits. Using windows for any kind of dev work is such a cope

Why on earth would anyone want any of these? Bloated garbage

While I got learned I need a terminal app. Sadly both are not supported on Windows.

Wave is intriguing. I might play around with it a bit. I did just switch from iTerm2 to Wezterm though, and while it took a while to get it configured how I like it, now its just crazy fast and has all the autocomplete/suggest features I would want. Seems like the big sell is supposed to be AI, and frankly I couldnt care less about it. The only CLI commands I would maybe use AI for would be ffmpeg and I use that MAYBE a few times a year. But the sessions/workspaces of Wave could be pretty sweet.

Wezterm + Tmux + Neovim. Great combo!

bruh, just use kitty or alacritty

Wow, not even sure what to say. First of all, a user account login for a terminal app, why? Secondly, when I use a terminal, I don't want to use a mouse. That just slows you down and kind of ruins the whole purpose. Grep, Sed, Tmux, Bat, Cat, Micro, countless fuzzy finders etc. The terminal has everything already. A terminal app just needs to display a window. Any pre-installed app will work, just as long as ZSH can be replaced with Bash.

Warp make all that pretty claims about what they do and don't do, but at the end of the day that's just a "trust me bro" kind of policy. It blows my mind why do tech-savvy people agree to such thing (and tech-savvy people are a target demography for a custom terminal emulation app).

"overkill" doesn't even begin to describe it.

Do you have this theme created for vscode?

keep it up, love the videos

alacritty + tmux

Knox here, Head of Developer Relations at Wave, so glad you gave us a try! In regards to your feedback about what you DONT like about Wave, we're addressing most, if not all, of this in upcoming releases. Namely around * Lack of layout customization * Lack of theming customization. * Lack of prompt support We will be adding: * The ability to split panes, move panes, zoom/unzooming, drag to new windows, etc. * More themes, ability to edit themes (with JSON support), more font support, set background images (possibly gifs/movies), opacity, and much more) * Current dev builds of Wave support most, if not all, prompt customizations like PowerLevel10k, Starship, etc. And so much more to come! Thanks again for the great review ❤.

Thank you!! I'll try Wave :D

I am very happy with vscode builtin terminal. 🫣

SecureCRT for both work and home use for ages now.

You lost me at closed source. To me, that means: hand over all my personal data to a foreign and potentially hostile entity I have no reason to trust.

Alacritty vs Kitty is where the war is, this is a side skirmish between neighbors.

Ghostty

kitty because it's fast and has all features, and when it gets released, probably ghostty made in zig. These sign ins and ais are clown things

Alacritty + zellij 💪

warp only allows for 40 ai searches tho no? i think wave is better in this regard since you can se your own local llm

can you run wave on your own gpu?

Great video. Just a heads up. When you talk about customization you proclaim warp the winner, but you display the icon for wave. (Yes I watched the full video). I would honestly go for Wave out of these two, just because of the fact that it is open source. (Yes, I'm one of those. What can I say, I have trust issues). Keep up the great work 👍

Are these terminal or ide?😶‍🌫️

I use Tabby, much better

Wezterm. No telemetry, no sign-up/sign-in, linux/windows/mac compatible, configuration is written in lua like neovim, built-in multiplexer (no need for zellij or tmux)